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A Singaporean girl who graduated from a Medical College in the UK and currently working as a doctor, spending most of my years abroad burying myself amongst medical books, speaking Queen's English and trying to adapt to life in Britain. But I still remain a true blue Singaporean who loves my plate of char kway teow and enjoys the sense of closeness when speaking "Singlish" to my fellow countrymen. Why "The Chinese Doctor"? Because that's what my patients call me since they don't know my name!

Friday, January 19, 2007

My favourite day of the week..Friday!

Love it so so much when I get half days off (my tutor's really kind) on Fridays. I haven't been updating partly because there isn't much to update (I think..) and partly because I have been so exhausted that I am totally out of touch with the world. No kidding on this one. The only person I am in contact with here is my bf and even MSN...I rarely have it on, plus...I am always away doing something else when my friends msg me...and hence, me not replying.

I shouldn't be complaining abt my placement since I'm given somewhere not too far away from Cardiff, and I have been given such a wonderful tutor. But it's quite tiring since the hrs are long, and I'm usually out of the house before sunrise, and back after sunset.

My boy's been lovely and supportive. Hugs from him just gives me so much consolation everyday. And I appreciate his effort to let me sleep and have the whole bed to myself while he does his work throughout the night, and then sleeping after I've left the house. Sigh, my "sleeping time" seems like the only time we are physically together now.

Weather in UK is getting tremendously depressing. Gosh, it's been raining raining raining. Gale-force winds joined in as well, and it got so bad that my flat was shaking. There has been a few times whereby I got woken by it, and had to go close the windows just in case the windows get blown off.

Weekly teachings have been interesting, but somehow frustrating in a way since there are people in my group who have got so much opinions abt every single thing that they have to fight it out with each other during discussion. It got really out of hand last week when they were literally raising their voice at each other over ethical issues of whether antibiotics should be prescribed to patients with a cold, and the doctors tried to interrupt but they were totally ignored and the battle continued.

Obviously, we, as medics, know that most colds are viral and hence antibiotics are not going to help things unless the cold has been persistent for weeks. But patients who don't know much abt these things, will think antibiotics will do them good, and hence ask for them, leading to the ethical question of whether we should or should not give it to them.

Arguments started when "What if the GP surgery is privately owned and that the GP has to be responsible for keeping his business going?" made the issue complicating. One side was arguing that the doctor is unethical for prescribing antibiotics to the patient when he knows it's useless, and hence with such unethical docs, it's no wonder why antibiotic resistance exists. Then you have the other side arguing that if the doc doesn't prescribe drugs to earn money, and also losing the patient to patronise the surgery in future, he's going to go bankrupt before he knows it, and what's the point of being so damn ethical when u are an unemployed doc.

I felt really unfortunate to be sitting between this 2 argumentative guys....grrrr. It's actually really simple, I thought. There's no right and wrong to this situation and since it's privately owned, it's the decision of the doctor who owns it no?

If he thinks he rather be completely ethical to the extent whereby it doesn't matter if he goes bankrupt again and again (pity social services..), then of course, he has all rights to insist on practising evidence-based medicine and say "NO" to give antibiotics for a cold and risk losing his patient who thinks he's whatever-they-wanna-say, without the patient knowing that the doc cares for his patients so much that he rather go bankrupt. *rolls eyes*

Then you can also choose to be a completely unethical doc who argues that antibiotics isn't going to harm the patient plus it brings in the bucks and if it so happens to be bacterial (since u can never tell if a cold is viral or bacterial), u hit the nail on the spot. Yet if it's viral, it's going to get better in a few days even if the patient doesn't take the drug, but since the patient will take it, he might think the doc is good for ending his misery. And as a result, he gets to keep his patient, when the doc is actually a bastard thinking abt his money and not anything else.

OR you can also choose to be half ethical and half unethical by giving antibiotics, but telling the patient that you doubt it will help, but take it nevertheless just in case it isn't viral. You earn the bucks, and at the same time, u can stop yourself from being pointed at for being unethical since u did inform the patient and it's their choice of whether they wanna take it or not. Chances are u get to keep your patient while being partially ethical, provided your patient doesn't turn round and say u're always giving him drugs when u know they are useless but just wanna earn the bucks.

If I were the GP, I would go for the "half ethical and half unethical" choice.

Then yesterday, it was a discussion about whether parents should smack their children. There has been a lot of debate about the limit of physical abuse. One can argue that if the parent smack the child a lot for right reasons (again...what is considered "right" and what is considered "wrong"?), it is not physical abuse, while another might argue that it's wrong to hit the child and how hitting him/her will cause emotional scarring and what have you about affecting them to grow up healthily etc etc (feel free to exaggerate the whole situation since i'm sure there will be ppl agreeing).

I think it is very subjective. You can't bang on the fact that if u wack the child, the child will grow up being scarred emotionally and hence, can't grow up into a healthy adult. Yet, you also bang on the fact that if u don't wack the child, u're providing a healthy environment for the child to grow up in, hence it's for sure that the kid will be good.

A few of my classmates in the group have been wacked a lot by parents. I, too, am one. One of them felt that most of her smackings were unjustified for, and till today, she couldn't understand why she was wacked so much. But I felt differently from her. I knew that I was wacked for a particular reason, regardless of whether it was that major a mistake that I deserved a wack rather than just a lecture. I think it did me good, despite me hating being wacked. And till today, I'm grateful for the wackings my parents gave me, because I wouldn't be in medical school if it weren't for them, and I know that it pains them just as much as how it pains me when I get wacked. Trust me, I know how hurt they are, because I heard my Dad weeping once in the toilet after he wacked me.

Yet, some children might hate their parents for hitting them because they do not think positively like me, and hence, rebel against them. Then social problems start, and parents get blamed for causing the emotional scarring of these children.

But before we point fingers at parents, maybe we should think about cases whereby parents do not wack their child. "Spare the rod, spoil the child" is the common phrase we hear often. Some kids just don't learn when parents talk to them about their fault, and continue with their intolerable ways, and give social problems when they grow up. And there are some who just grow up to be proper.

I believe that whether a person gets led astray or not depends on numerous factors. I strongly agree that parents and the child's surrounding environment has a huge influence, but the child's maturity also plays a major role. If you get a child who grows up in the best environment (deemed by society as being the best, of course), but he's just immature in deciding what is right and wrong for himself, and not thinking abt the consequences, then it's too bad for him. There are numerous cases of children who grow up in poverty, being smuggled abroad at a young tender age to fight for survival alone without parental love and a proper home, but end up being successful people and understanding the emotional turmoil their parents went through. My bf already knew a few like that.

Sigh, there are still other issues we were discussing about, but I'll probably spend the entire day typing out, so I shall just stop here.

I really think people in my course should start a "Medical Students' Debating Society", so that we can all spend a few hours a week debating amongst ourselves and trigger thoughts and reflections over ethical issues. Hmm..I can see why some people I know are so against to dating medics now.

We are, definitely, a bunch of very opinionated people who go all way out to argue and put our point across. Haha...

12 Comments:

Blogger me said...

wah.. finally an update ley!! *ROAR*

9:16 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

haha this is the best post I have ever read since the beginning of the year, heehee really enjoy it! =D

12:30 pm  
Blogger The Chinese Doctor said...

elaine: yah..i kinda disappeared...*blush* very tired everyday lah..

julian: i knew u would take interest in this bit. medical ethics..something we can spend time arguing FOREVER and never come to a conclusion. tt's why it's ever so interesting, yet kinda frustrating also cos of our argumentative character. any thoughts to share abt it? i'll luv to hear them!

9:02 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haha there are far too many people out there who believe that antibiotics cure the early symptoms of the common cold so sometimes I explain until vomit blood people also remain sceptical.

Hmm if I have a chance to be a doc in the future, I will probably be 75% ethical, 25% work smart (heehee reluctant to use the word unethical). Actually, I have asked my family doc in canada this question too and how he deals with that. He told me that it depends on the situation and the patient involved. For relatively healthy patients without any complicated medical history, he would usually not prescribe antibiotics if he strongly suspects the cold is caused by viruses.

However, patients with nasty respiratory problems (for eg my mum) or those who have poorer immune systems, he will usually prescribe antibiotics cos any bacterial infection will cause serious complications in these patients.

Haha so I agree with you that there are no right or wrong answer to it and everybody do it their own way according to their beliefs. =]

3:43 pm  
Blogger The Chinese Doctor said...

yeah..i think we're agreeing with each other. haha :)

by the way, u went for some dental interview right? have u heard from them yet? i think u went for some med interview too hor...correct me if im wrong. hope all that went alright.. :D i'm thinking of whether i should volunteer to be sitting in as an interviewer for medical students next mth. wat ya think?

9:40 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heehee yup i went for a dental interview, but kanna rejected, strange enough yesterday, I got an offer letter from the university of tasmania, I got into their MBBS program, what an unexpected surprise! =]

Haha I have tried giving mock interviews to my juniors who are interested in med. Heehee I am definitely a nasty interviewer cos I keep critizing their repsonses, suan them until they are speechless and in the end, they are surprised by how much they didnt know about the depressing side of medicine. >]

Hmm so if you have the chance and the time, consider sitting in, you will definitely be surprised by all kinds of funny answers people give! =]

7:44 pm  
Blogger The Chinese Doctor said...

cool! congrats!!!! when will u be starting ur course then?

funny answers..hmm..i was thinking tt i might see lots of ppl whom i feel like suanning and kicking out actually. im sure a lot of them will try to be kinda ego abt it, and not be humble abt themselves. i mean, even in med sch, there's quite a number who are like that already...hate talking to them sometimes.

too bad tt im still a student myself. would be nice to be a prof and then can suan and be nasty to those i dread at interviews, yet no one can say anything. oh boy, doesn't it feel good to b at the top...

2:01 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haha you are right, I am just being polite by using the word "funny", it is true that some students want to do med becos of ego, these people really deserve a big tight slap! =p

Haha my course starts at the end of Feb, it's a 5 year course and after my specialist training, need to serve the government by working in rural areas for 6 years cos I signed a contract with them for the medical place. Hmm so I guess I can only be a "free" person again at around 40. =]

Wah you not student liao lah, going to start your internship soon right, follow by residency, still sticking to neurosurgery? Haha a long road ahead sia......

11:23 am  
Blogger The Chinese Doctor said...

hey..that's pretty soon! so u're going to sg first for a break then back to aussie for it right?

i didn't noe u can sign with the govt for the med place. i dunno if u got a PR there, but is it possible for overseas students? rural areas...i bet the ppl will be nicer..but i can't live in a rural place. doesn't matter that u'll be free at 40 lah...unless u want the $$$, then it's worth complaining abt. But i dont think $$$ is top of ur list. It better not be!!!!

no no...still student...haha. if things go well, then im not a student anymore in 5+ mths' time. then it's 2 horrid yrs of housemanship (my stay in uk just gets longer tt im dreading it).

im absolutely put off by anything neuro. i guess it's because i had such a bad placement for it..and only 1 week of neuro attachment..plus patients stay in there FOR MTHS AND MTHS N MTHS!!!! I got totally bored of it, and surgery (any type) is struck off my list because i dun like surgeon's attitudes, and u noe wat? most assholes in my course (the argue like mad kind) all wanna be surgeons..can't imagine having them as colleagues. tolerating them for yrs in med sch is enuff.

seems like i'm heading towards the hospital physician path. things might change on the way, but at least, i do know some specialties which i dont wanna go into. PSYCH ranks first on the list!!!!

how abt u? any thoughts/plans?

4:58 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAHAHA... yup, last holiday before starting my "hell-like" medical journey. =p

Heehee you are right, only aust citizen or PR can sign a contract with the gov for a bonded medical place. Sorry to say, it is not possible for international students. Hmm many people are reluctant to practise in rural areas, but I view it as an opportunity for me to learn more about tropical medicine and infectious disease and ultimately, these experiences become an asset to me in my application with the MSF.

Haha I know for sure that I am going to be a poor doc in the future cos I am not interested in any specialty that makes big money. And I have a feeling that I can only appreciate the beauty of practising medicine by working in areas where there's a severe shortage of physicians. Haha apparently I am a very left-wing person. =]

Hmm I guess the only setback I have about this is that I am going to have much lesser time to spend with my parents. Time really flies and all kind of age-related conditions such as hypertension, osteoporosis, high LDL starts to invade them. People who have worked in a hospital before, like us, realise that life is unpredictable and can be very fragile too, so if possible, I will accompany them more whenever time allows. =]

Hohoho no more neurosurgeon liao, initially I thought you will be the female version of Dr Paul Cheng (Healing hands male lead) heeheee... =p Hmm I am quite sure that I dont want to be a surgeon cos their lifestyle is too "exciting" for me, I prefer a less challenging and more normal timetable. =p

Haha my 1st choice is always pediatrics, 2nd choice family medicine, but I dont think aust has this specialty so the equivalent would be general medicine. Sometimes I wonder if I am too focus, like I know exactly what I want to archieve at various stages of my life and have my goals planned out systematically to be archieved one after another. And what I do now is just to follow the path that I create for myself in which I just pass my 1st landmark med sch, moving on to the next one pediatrics. Well I wont deny the possibility that this 5 years of med sch education will change my thoughts but unless something really nasty happens to me, I dont think I can separate myself from sick kids. Haha what do you think? =]

3:25 pm  
Blogger The Chinese Doctor said...

MSF..medicin sans frontiers isit? I can't rem the spelling lah..haha. Ay...they did send some email to me abt it, and i am interested in doing something like that. Not full time though...wouldn't mind doing it for like a mth or so. u planning to work for them full time?

the bit abt enjoying the beauty of med...I think it doesn't matter where u are. In any hospital, there'll still be politics cos gotto fight for limited training posts ard the country. Then a lot of indians from india are going everywhere lor, especially when UK is chasing them out now...heard a lot ran to aussie. I love and hate med after being in it for 5 years. Can't really describe it. But I know there's nothing else I wanna do with my life (except ballet...ehhehe).

Seriously ah...I don't mind being the female version of Dr Cheng. Life is somewhat unpredictable. Chances are low..but sometimes u r just fated to be under a neurosurgeon as a houseman, and somehow, u'll end up doing a specialty related to neuro or neurosurgery since u'll be more confident in it. That's what I think. Sui yuan ba.. My choices are pretty open, as long as it's not paeds and it's not psych.

Everyone just wanna be a paediatrician, and I don't understand why. I find kiddies cute, but I won't die die make myself become a paediatrician, partly cos I don't get along with them, and I got no patience with them either. I think it's just my character lah.

I'm like u..I kinda have my route planned cos I feel more secured knowing what's ahead and what I wanna do, but I realise not many things go my way, and just gotto be flexible. Good to think far, but it's even better to think of what's happening in the short term first. U can't plan too far if u don't even know what's happening next wk or even tmr!

Stay focussed, but don't subject yourself to only one path. There are many choices in life and if there's always a better path, don't just cling on tightly to the current one. =)

5:58 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heehee yes I cant spell it properly either so sometimes I just call it 無國界醫生 or Doctors Without Borders. I became a donor to the organisation several years ago so they send me updates about their ongoing projects regularly. Hmm I will probably join them on several missions but not really work full-time cos I want to spend more time taking care of sick kids. =]

Hmm actually there's a severe shortage of physicians in many rural areas in australia in which many residents cannot find a family doc nearby. Although the aust gov is willing to offer attractive salary and benefit packages for docs who are willing to work in these areas, the situation is still quite bad. So I guess your Indian friends will have lots of choices if they are willing to work in smaller towns or less populated areas in aust. =]

Haha as a doctor, I am sure one of the most rewarding things that you will enjoy is that patients respect you and appreciate your services. People living in big cities are usually more "unreasonable" than those living in country areas cos they have easy access to excellent medical facilities. In contrast, those living in rural areas are deprived of similar services so they will really appreciate if there are doctors who are willing to give up luxuary in big cities and stay to work for them. =]

Hmm I remember Sir William Osler once said that medicine is a jealous mistress, heehee so do you still attend classes for ballet?

Haha you know what, if I didnt get into medicine, all my backup options are related to kids, for example, pedodontician, optometrist specialize in children's vision and even kindergarden teacher!!! I always feel that I have a special bond with kids and always feel very happy and comfortable with them. Many people told me that I have a kid's heart, one that never grow up and get polluted by all kind of nasty adult things, maybe that's why I have no problem getting along with them. Yup patience is very important cos kids are a group of creature that have the shortest attention span out of all age groups. Haha apparently kids think and behave very differently from adults, I have a few friends of mine who told me that they just cannot communicate with them. Hmm then i will joke with them, "Come on lah, you were once kids just like them, did others discriminate you?"

Hmm most kids are happy becos their lives are simple, in fact everything is simple to them, their emotions reflects their state of mind and that's how they talk to the people around them. I guess one of the reasons why one has problems with kids is becos he/she has grown up to become an adult. Then things get difficult cos you tend to analyze things the adult way and can no longer see things from the kids point of view. =]

Haha thanks for the advice! Yup, fate and destiny are something that we cannot control. It is always good to do things step by step and concentrate in the short term events first.

Wow, I can sense that these few years in medicine really made a difference to your life. Hmm I have a feeling that I will get transformed too, hope for the better and not for the worse...... =]

12:04 pm  

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